Giant cans

Looking at this US map of who says pop v who says soda made me wonder what a British equivalent would look like. I'd call it juice and would have called it ginger in the past. I think juice is a bit posher than ginger and obviously I'm a lady now. What do you call it and where are you from?

[Picture from the Museum of Brands and Packaging, of which more later.]

Interesting question. We lived in several different places as we grew up (itinerant RAF childhood) but I think the agreed generic family term was 'fizzy drink.' 'Pop' sounded rather quaint to us and was used by elderly relatives exclusively.

Now I think of it, I'm sure we were always pretty precise in our requests - lemonade or Tizer or coke or whatever - and I can't remember ever asking for a 'fizzy drink' in a shop.

Slightly related: my Welsh gran always referred to 'squash' (which we drank more than any other cold beverage - much cheaper!) as 'cordial,' pronounced in a deliciously enunciated fashion - COR-dee-ahl.

Ginger! Although it can cause confusion with anyone not from Lanarkshire...

Oh, "fizzy pop" for fizzy drinks, "squash" for 'cordial'. In the Midlands childhood, the Yorkshire period and the Devon adulthood. Ginger ale rather than ginger beer, mind.

"Juice" is the stuff actually made from fruit as opposed to the stuff made by Robinsons.

I can't think what I would have called squash. Maybe Scottish children were brought up exclusively on fizzy drinks. 'Ginger' was never anything gingery, by the way although it was probably ginger coloured, like ginger hair.

I prefer to call it soda. Pop seems kinda weird .... Juice and ginger out of the question.

'Pop' for fizzy drinks, 'Squash' for non-fizzy.

I commented on the original blog about juice and ginger. I grew up in Ireland where we called fizzy drinks "minerals" and we had both red and white lemonade. Imagine the looks I got when I moved to London and asked for white lemonade.

@VegAnne - just to check this here. Is white lemonade just normal lemonade? I mean, it's clear? I wonder if your red lemonade is like Red Kola up here. Oh and you've got banana lemonade too - that's mental!

In deepest Roxburghshire it was always 'juice', though Cremola Foam or a well shaken bottle of squash was as near as we got to fizziness most of the time.

Locally produced minerals - Middlemas of Kelso and Pearce's of Innerleithen for us - had the added benefit of 10p bottle deposit and a readily available depot at which to cash them in.

'Fizzy drink' was the standard term in 60s/70s London when I was a kid.

'Pop' was an expression that our parents were more likely to use. It sounded a bit quaint to us as well because everyone knew that the single and only possible meaning of 'pop' was 'pop music' (as available from Follets record shop on seven inch slices of black plastic, or introduced by a gurning Jimmy Saville on Thursday evenings).

'Soda' was an Americanism that you only ever came across in Archie comics.

And the idea of using 'ginger' for anything other than 'ginger beer' is novel and weird...

In the the bit of north london I grew up in the 80's fizzy stuff was generically referred to a 'can' i.e. 'going shop to get a cahhn'

@spud - who you calling novel and weird? You'll have most of Scotland to answer for.

@Chris - have those local minerals got nice labels? I got some nice ones from the Highlands. Must big them out. Straight from the 50s.

@Grainne - That made me laugh. You'll have to say that next time we're out.

fizzy juice for me. never called it ginger myself, but in ayrshire that was not uncommon. we used to have a ginger van every week came round the houses - i think it was solripe. whatever happened to those?

Not entirely sure we called it anything generic in my part of north london. We were cleary brand conscious consumers even in the 70s...

Have you read Gig by Simon Armitage? In that he says he called his record label Corporation Pop as that what they called tap water!

The Pearces' label was very much of it's time - alas I have no examples (only a crate) but shall make enquiries as they're in the watercooler business now.

My memory of the Middlemas labels is somewhat hazier - once they'd moved out of the town centre in the '80s they used a less inspiring scenic view but this must have replaced something more apt.

In our bit of West Yorkshire, pop was the fizzy stuff, juice for cordial. Although my cousins up the road insisted on calling cordial pop, confusingly. Incidentally, we had yellow or white lemonade, available exclusively from chip shops. These were supplied in glass deposit bottles by regional behemoth Ben Shaws, who along with local upstart Shackleton And Sagar had Airedale's soft drink business sewn up.

I would say 'fizzy', then cordial for anything that had to be diluted, and juice for well, juice.
Although I remember 'popman' coming round when we were little selling bottles of pop which could be collected and filled the next week.

In Edinburgh it was always "Juice" for anything fizzy and "Dilutin' Juice" for cordials. Where does 'ginger' come from though? My girlfriend is from Glasgow and always laughs when I call coca cola 'juice'... the ginger drinking weirdo that she is.

I would agree with Simon Armitage, but in Lanarkshire tap water is known as council ginger. Don't know if that helps or makes it more confusing.

Always 'fizzy drink' when I was small, in the Oxfordshire countryside. I tend to refer to it as a 'can' nowadays (if that's what it's in!) - I guess London has got to me.

In my area of Glasgow we mocked those who referred to carbonated soft drinks as 'ginger' although we were not above the act of cashing a 'glass cheque' found in the hedges on a Saturday morning.
Juice is a non-carbonated fruit-based soft drink and can be nothing else. We utilised the noun 'skoosh' as a generic for fizzy drinks and I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned here. When one described a simple task which one had recently undertaken the phrase 'skoosh-case' was brought into play. It's a direct equivalent of piece of cake. I am unsure of the provenance of 'skoosh-case' and whether it is linked to soft drinks.

East End of Glasgow - it was always ginger.

We also had the weekly ginger lorry - the brand was Alpine, and I'm sure they were based in Rutherglen. The fact they sold bigger bottles at the same price as Barr's meant they were really popular.

Talking of ginger, does anyone else remember a flavour called Dunsade? If memory serves me was a compeitor's (maybe Dunn & Moore) equivalent of our other national drink - Barr's Irn Bru.)

Ahem, it was always 'Juice' in Aberdeen. Like 'the Juice Man' and the 'Juice Lorry' aka the Bon Accord Sparkling Drinks Company vendor and his van who used to deliver in our street. Juice is fizzy as far as I know. And yes, 'Diluting Juice' or 'Quosh' is concentrate. Soda Stream - now that's an entirely different matter. No-one's mentioned that. We used Bon Accord concentrate for our Soda Stream - it was great! oooh, the memories!!

Ah, Alpine. Who needs a Soda Stream when you can have that dragged up your stairs for you? And believe it or not Dunsade is still available.

The East End of Glasgow now seems to be opting for 'juice' over 'ginger', as I found out last week. I'm still trying to get my teeth clean, but it was worth it...

Pop for pop. Juice for juice. I'll never forget the look of disgust in my first year in Glasgow when I offered someone a glass of juice and gave them diluted cordial. If they wanted pop they only had to ask!

@Ian - Skoosh! That takes me back. Also no one has mentioned 'jeggy'.

I remember Alpine. My cousins got it and it seemed kind of exotic in a non-exotic way. I remember that their "Iron Brew" tasted like barley sugar rather than Irn Bru. It was nice.

And soda streams. So exotic. We never had one. Hell would have frozen over before we got a soda stream. Funny that, isn't it?

In 70s Fife it was Juice for fizzy stuff

Scoosh for diluting orange

Cremmy for Cremola foam

Local juice men would be Alpine on Mondays in the GIANT 1.5L glass bottles but I prefered Bon Accord on Wednesdays cos the label had that quaint picture of the Bass rock with an old fashioned storm lamp on a stick hanging off it.

I was so disappointed on a school trip to the bass rock find it didn't exist :(

Depending on the chip shop you either got Barr's with the little turbanned Indian servant boy on the enamel sign or Plummers with the Polar Bear.

Soda stream was pretty posh and frequently on Christmas lists and you were sadly palmed off with the cheaper Merimix competitor which had none of the branded Pepsi/Coke/Fanta concentrates.

Proper Fruit Juice came in concentrated frozen blocks or in tins but I forget the brands.

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